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Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism
From: "Chris Kuethe" <chris.kuethe () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:31:55 -0600
On 4/12/06, Steve Sobol <sjsobol () justthe net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:By the way, since we're talking about D-Link, it's instructive to read the warnings on their firmware update pages. Do NOT upgrade firmware on any D-Link product over a wireless connection. Failure of the device may result. Use only hard-wired network connections.Cisco/Linksys says the same thing.
Who here hasn't been burned at least once by changing packet filters, routes or interface configurations over the wire/air? Or maybe getting your userland and kernel out of sync on a *NIX machine? It's not really that surprising that they put that in there, other than maybe the fact that it's useful advice. And maybe it'll reduce support costs. Loading a new firmware is a risky operation - I don't know of too many consumer network widgets with a reflash safety protocol to prevent you from destroying the device with an aborted upload. Heck, that's still a pretty rare feature in pee-cees. Sure it's easy to implement such a thing, but that would cost money. I think this thread has done a good job of demonstrating that those who would choose the right (and maybe slightly more expensive up front) solution are outvoted by those who would just take a quick, cheap and easy hack. CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
Current thread:
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism, (continued)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Martin Hannigan (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Steve Sobol (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Mike Tancsa (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism John Underhill (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism John Underhill (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Steve Sobol (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Chris Kuethe (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism goemon (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism John Dupuy (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alexei Roudnev (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Eric Pancer (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alexei Roudnev (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism tony sarendal (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Stephen Sprunk (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 12)