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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:51:23 -0400
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Matthew Crocker wrote:
I opened a billing/support ticket with Cogent. I'm not planning on paying my bill or continuing the contract if they cannot provide full BGP tables and full Internet transport (barring outages). Luckily I have 2 other providers so I can still reach Level 3.
Every depeering, someone pops up to talk about how much of a stink they are going to make and how many service credits they are going to ask for because they aren't getting a full table, even though they are multihomed and aren't relying on those routes to maintain reachability, because "transit means you are supposed to provide a view of the entire Internet". Not that I don't sympathize, but let me save you some time and energy by assuring you right now that Cogent doesn't give a flying crap about your whining on this issue, and anyone in "customer service" who says they do is being paid to nod and smile until 5pm. You will never see a dime in credits, so if you're actually going after the money and not just complaining for the sake of complaining or to try and encourage them to cave, save your energy for an issue you can actually win. :) Understand that both sides believe they are in the right in their own heads, or it would never have come this far in the first place. You can threaten them with cancellation of future business (or an illegal breach of contract and best of luck in collections I guess), but there is no way you're going to see a dime or make them stop under the terms of your contract. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
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- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
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- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jon Lewis (Oct 05)
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- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Sinn (Oct 05)
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