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(de)peering


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:34:30 +0000


On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:06:49PM -0400, James wrote:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 02:17:09PM -0700, David Sinn wrote:

So this is all well and good while some measure of V6 is tunneled, but 
one should be wondering what these games of chicken mean to V6 when it 
is native.  Given that most organizations won't meet the qualifications 
to be multi-homed, stunts like this will have a greater impact then 
this one is having today.  Doesn't exactly leave a warm fuzzy that the 
current direction for IPv6 services is sane....

Indeed.  Unfortunately (or actually, may this is rather fortunate?) there is 
practically no money value yet in IPv6, so we may be at least a year (or more)
away from seeing the first major v6 depeering dispute.  But nevertheless, given
the imperfect state of multihoming for edge sites in IPv6, such depeering war
will be significantly more detrimental to customers who cannot justify for a
/32 or a "special infrastructure" /48 prefix allocation from the RIRs.  Let see
how multihoming proposals (e.g shim6, relaxed RIR allocation policy requests, 
etc et al) turn out in the next few months.  IPv6 operators should probably
want to pay close attention to multihoming proposals and any commercial 
developments in v6 world in the next year or two perhaps.  If multihoming
solutions don't really turn out well and v6 is appearing to become more
ubiquitous, it may be a plausible idea to start opening up your route-filters
to accept /48 prefix-lengths before the first depeering happens :)

        er... the first depeering flaps have -already- occured in IPv6
        space.  there are several (mostly EU-based) ISPs that refuse to
        peer w/ folks using 3ffe:: space and/or filter that prefix.

--bill



James

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