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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz () wvi com>
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:35:18 -0700
Simon Lockhart wrote:
Yes, it could have - I'm led to believe that one of the parties does purchase transit. However, moving all that traffic over transit rather than peering would cost them a significant amount of money - and as they're running their transit service at extremely low cost, they probably would find it hard to fund the use of transit to reach the other party. Simon
Okay, here is how I see this war... which seems to be the proper term for it.
1. Level 3 is probably annoyed at Cogent for doing the extremely low cost transit thing, thus putting price pressures on other providers - including them. So they declared war.
2. Level 3's assault method is to drop peering with Cogent, in hopes this will force Cogent to purchase transit to them in some fashion (does Level 3 have an inflated idea of their own worth?), also forcing them to raise prices and hopefully (for Level 3) returning some stability to the market.
3. Cogent's counter-attack is to instead offer free transit to all single homed Level 3 customers instead, effectively stealing them (and their revenue) from Level 3... and lowering the value of Level 3 service some amount as well.
4. Next move, if they choose to make one, is Level 3's. Fun. I think I'll stay in the trenches. -- Jeff Shultz
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jeff Shultz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering James (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Payne (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jeff Shultz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Joe Abley (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Joe Abley (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Mike Tancsa (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Curran (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Simon Lockhart (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jeff Shultz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Micheal Patterson (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Chris Stone (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Alex Rubenstein (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jeff Shultz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Justin M. Streiner (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Pete Templin (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Chris Stone (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Press Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering William Allen Simpson (Oct 06)
- Re: Press Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering JC Dill (Oct 06)