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Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors )


From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi () mail r-bonomi com>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:18:54 -0600 (CST)


To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: potpourri (Re: Clearwire May Block VoIP Competitors )
From: Michael.Dillon () radianz com
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:58:39 +0100


Why can't we have VoIP phones with built-in GPS receivers and a

Because GPS doesn't work indoors.

GPS works anywhere where the satellite signals can be detected.
http://www.u-blox.com/technology/supersense.html
Obviously, signals get weaker when they have to pass through
solid materials like building walls. But people are already 
working on more sensitive receivers.

But, leaving that aside, if the IP phone has a battery
inside it and if it can record previous GPS locations
and if you move the phone outside to a new location, then
it could remember the last GPS detectable location and
use that when it connects to the net again.


There's a reason these kinds of capabilities aren't in VoIP "phones".

That reason is *money*.

GPS capability in the handset would raise the cost of low-end VoIP
handsets by an order of magnitude, at least.


Using battery-power for the GPS while not plugged into the line is
a laugh.  Think about what happens when the batteries run down, *before*
the phone reaches it's final destination.  Suppose it's in an airplane
at the time.   The 911 call shows a "location"  of 37,000 ft _above_
the middle of Lake Michigan.  Care to imagine the lawsuit when somebody
*dies*, when 'emergency responce' didn't get there in time, _because_ the
phone lied about where it was at?



Note: this is all getting _fair_ afield from the chartered NANOG subject
matter.  I'll shut up.





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