Re: Cisco moves even more to china.

["Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>]

> Then you all need to stop purchasing from Dell, IBM, HP, Cisco, et al.
Of course. Don't purchase from DELL, purchase from ServersDirect.
Don't purchase from HP, purchase (for home) from brand-less or E-Machine.
Don't purchase from EMC, purchase from Adap. Are any idiots here, who
purchase CA Unicenter? etc...
Btw, I do not deal with Bank Of America; I deal with Patelco CU. (But I deal
with Safeway and walMart -:)).

It's not about outsourcing, through, it's about _BIG, OLD, and FAT_ brands.
Cisco was the only one who keeps going as a startup for more than 5 - 7
years; but now (few years) they behave as a _BIG, FAT and OLD brand_ (not in
everything, they still have a lot of drive).

(Compare - AX100 from AMC and FS4500 from Adaptec. Compare server frm DELL
and server from SuperMicro... Comp[are RedHat linux and SuSe linux. The same
happen with Cisco; knowing their internal athmosphere, which changed
dramatically - I should not want to work for them, no I bet on their long
life).

> They've all outsourced quite a bit to the third world.  90% of the parts
> for any of this stuff come from Asia.  The US has lost more
> manufacturing jobs in the last 3 years then the previous 22.  There are
> 18% fewer tech jobs in this country than there were 4 years ago.  You'll
> also need to stop dealing with Citicorp and Bank of America and the rest
> of the big financial companies that have moved IT operations to Bangalor
> or deal with companies like Keane that do as much as possible offshore.
> Motorola is moving R&D to China (tantamount to giving away military
> secrets).  I can go on.  Those last two statements don't make much sense
> to me.  The way to fix things is to remove the incentives to move the
> jobs overseas in the first place.  Fair trade, not free trade.
>
>
> Joseph wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >  We as world citizens need to come to grips with the fact that we must
> > compete with workers internationally but we should be doing so on FAIR
> > playing field. Pure free market capitalism has no concept fairness and
> > equity and no room for correcting the drastic changes that can
> > sometimes cause great societal costs. Capitalism is not inherently bad
> > but it is an imperfect system in need of much guidance. Historically
> > the only way this system has been improved is by Labor action,
> > political involvement and transparent government. Getting upset about
> > job losses is useless and futile we need to take action!
> >
> >
> > Don't Support Outsourcing
> >
> > Don't buy from companies that outsource US jobs. Be very vocal and
> > call and mail these companies and let them know you will not support
> > them. Let them know you are watching what they are doing and will vote
> > with your Dollars. Check out the site below to look up any company.
> > http://www.workingamerica.org/
> >
> >
> > Be Politically Active
> >
> > Be politically aware and active! Remain politically active and tell
> > your state & local politician and the president that they need to be
> > protective of American jobs and leveling the playing field in world
> > wide labor market.
> >
> >
> > Check out these links
> >
> > http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/outsourcedebate.html
> >
> > http://www.workingamerica.org/
> >
> > Just my 2 cents. =)