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Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery
From: Daniel Senie <dts () senie com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 00:29:38 -0500
At 04:46 PM 11/25/2004, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:09:02 EST, Daniel Senie said: > Seems to me we wrote a document some years ago about how to address this. > If the upstream ISP isn't willing to filter at their edges, then write > contract language that the client is required to filter such traffic in > THEIR border routers. The typical customer with a few T-1 lines and some > small routers could easily afford the CPU power in their routers to > implement a few lines of ACL filtering. > > This sure seems like a weak reason to scuttle an otherwise useful and > desired capability. Exactly. And how many places *still* botch it in the IPv4 world? And there's no reason I've seen that we should expect *any* different in the IPv6 world....
We may not. However, without ULA, I question whether people will bother adopting IPv6 at all. If that's what the community desires, then so be it. However, I expect market forces will drive the requirement for ULA. If it's missing, I expect a repeat of another happening with IPv4, that being people picking random address blocks to use.
As for the ingress filtering issue, education and contract terms are two good answers. I'd like to see network operators considering ingress as part of their aggregation router buying decisions, of course.
Current thread:
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery, (continued)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Alex Bligh (Nov 25)
- Re: MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Bill Owens (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Stephen Sprunk (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 20)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 20)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Niels Bakker (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 20)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Kevin Loch (Nov 19)