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Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:32:47 -0500
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:52:21 PST, Crist Clark said:
Do customers demand that their ISPs route RFC1918 addresses now? (And that's an honest question. I am not being sarcastic.) Wouldn't the IPv6
No, they just emit the traffic anyhow. Often it travels an amazing distance before hitting a router that doesn't have a default route - and if it's one of those providers that internally routes 1918 addresses of their own it might go even further ;)
ULA answer be the same as the IPv4 RFC1918 answer, "I could announce those networks for you, but no one else would accept the routes. (And I would be ridiculed straight off of NANOG.)" I presume everyone will be filtering the ULA prefix(es), link local, loopback, and other obvious bogons from their tables. How does this enterprise demand that other providers route the ULA prefixes too?
More correctly, the same people who do proper bogon filtering for IPv4 will quite likely do it for IPv6, and the same people who botch it for IPv4 will almost certainly botch it worse for IPv6. Note that this has *quite* different operational semantics than "everyone"..
If we're talking about routing ULAs within a providers network, I'd think providers would love them. Right now, an enterprise can buy a "corporate VPN" or layer two network to route "private" addresses.
One has to wonder if the first attempt to multihome a ULA will be accidental or intentional, or has it already happened?
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- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery, (continued)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Pekka Savola (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 30)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Crist Clark (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Alex Bligh (Nov 25)
- Re: MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Bill Owens (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Stephen Sprunk (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 20)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 20)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Niels Bakker (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 19)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 20)