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Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]]
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 23 Nov 2004 06:39:31 +0000
ok, i'll bite. patrick () ianai net (Patrick W Gilmore) writes:
Why is an ISP more "worthy" or PI space than a large enterprise. In fact, ISPs are responsible for far, far more table pollution than enterprises. Pot-Kettle-Black?
to ask about worthiness is to presuppose a valuer. "worthy in whose eyes?" that's not as simple as it might sound. it's not "the public". it's the great collective of people and companies who own and who pay for the routers in whose routing tables you're asking for a slot. once you figure out the value-perspective, figuring out "worthiness" is easy. you're worthy of a slot if their customers/endusers want to exchange packets with the destinations covered by the prefix occupying "a slot". sadly, this doesn't map to local economics. the great collective of which i speak will gladly "spend" "a slot" on an isp who brings lots of eyeballs or lots of content to "the table". they aren't so willing to spend a slot on helping wal-mart or ford avoid a renumbering penalty. fortunately or unfortunately, the great collective of which i speak has no voice (or actually it has too many voices, which comes to the same thing). -- Paul Vixie
Current thread:
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]], (continued)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] bmanning (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Patrick W Gilmore (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] bmanning (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Patrick W Gilmore (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Pekka Savola (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Owen DeLong (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] bmanning (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Paul Vixie (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Patrick W Gilmore (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Paul Vixie (Nov 22)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 23)
- Level 3 NOC information. Majid Farid (Nov 23)
- Re: Level 3 NOC information. Todd Mitchell - lists (Nov 23)
- Re: Level 3 NOC information. Suresh Ramasubramanian (Nov 23)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Paul Vixie (Nov 23)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] William Allen Simpson (Nov 24)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 Paul Vixie (Nov 24)
- Re: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32 Jeroen Massar (Nov 24)
- BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32) Jeroen Massar (Nov 25)
- Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI prefix [Re: who gets a /32) Owen DeLong (Nov 25)