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Re: Even you can be hacked
From: Crist Clark <crist.clark () globalstar com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:54:07 -0700
Andy Dills wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:Jeff Shultz wrote:But ultimately, _you_ are responsible for your own systems.Even if the water company is sending me 85% TriChlorEthane? Right. Got it. The victim is always responsible. There you have it folks.Change the word "victim" to "negligent party" and you're correct.
It would be great if there always was a negligent party, but there is not always one. If Widgets Inc.'s otherwise ultra-secure web server gets 0wn3d by a 0-day, there is no negligence[0]. Who eats it, Widgets Inc. or the ISP? So how about this analogy: Someone breaks into my house and spends a few hours on the phone to Hong Kong. Who eats the bill, me or my LD carrier? Neither of us was negligent. [0] Unless someone can prove the software flaw was sloppy enough that it constitutes negligence and goes after the software authors. Good luck with that. -- Crist J. Clark crist.clark () globalstar com Globalstar Communications (408) 933-4387
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- Re: Even you can be hacked Sean Donelan (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked bmanning (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Jeff Shultz (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Robert Blayzor (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Andy Dills (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Crist Clark (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Owen DeLong (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Andy Dills (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jun 10)
- [OT] common list sense (Re: Even you can be hacked) Paul Jakma (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense (Re: Even you can be hacked) Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense (Re: Even you can be hacked) Randy Bush (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense (Re: Even you can be hacked) Paul Jakma (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense and responsibility Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense and responsibility Andy Dills (Jun 11)
- Re: [OnTopic] common list sense (Re: Even you can be hacked) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 11)