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RE: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)
From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding () sockeye com>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:28:50 -0400
Ralph, Your false assumption is that any of these folks would sign a MLPA at a new or existing peering point, where such an agreement did not already exist. The major reason most of these guys are on the AADS MLPA is that they don't want to Unsign it. In other words, it's a done deal, a fact on the ground, not something they care to revise - something historic, not current. Even if there was an MLPA at PAIX, introduced tomorrow, there is vanishingly small chance that anyone would sign up. For that matter, in many ways MLPAs are counterintuitive to the very idea of peering, because there is no mechanism to ensure that both partners in any given relationship are peers, in the sense of size, network, traffic balance, etc. That is why most folks prefer BLPAs these days - it allows you to be much pickier about who you peer with, and ensure they are a proper counterpart to your network. - Daniel Golding
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Ralph Doncaster Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:29 AM To: Majdi S. Abbas Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)traffic. If you're going to have to negotiate bilateralagreements tocover the bulk of your peering traffic, why notconsistantly negotiatebilateral agreements?Randy (Group Telecom) snubbed me when I asked to peer at TorIX. Group Telecom is on the AADS MLPA. AT&T Canada has a tough policy re peering as well, and is on the AADS MLPA. I'm sure there are others among the AADS MLPA signatories that would refuse bilateral peering if I approached them. -Ralph
Current thread:
- Re: Interconnects, (continued)
- Re: Interconnects Mitch Halmu (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects todd glassey (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Alex Rubenstein (May 17)
- PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Paul Vixie (May 17)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Ralph Doncaster (May 18)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Paul Vixie (May 18)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Ralph Doncaster (May 18)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Simon Lockhart (May 18)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Majdi S. Abbas (May 18)
- Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Ralph Doncaster (May 19)
- RE: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Daniel Golding (May 22)
- RE: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: Interconnects Mitch Halmu (May 17)
- RE: Interconnects Daniel Golding (May 20)
- Re: Interconnects Paul Vixie (May 20)
- Re: Interconnects Alex Rubenstein (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Anthony D Cennami (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects E.B. Dreger (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Sean Donelan (May 17)