RE: Interconnects

["Daniel Golding" <dgolding () sockeye com>]

PAIX shares MFN/Abovenet's peering agreements? That's quite a trick. While
Above does peer at PAIX, as do many other folks, the amount of peering that
Above has there does not speak to the quality of the exchange point, nor
does it add value in any real way. There is MFN fiber in there, but that
goes without saying.

This is not to slam PAIX or Paul Vixie - I'm a big PAIX fan, and Paul has
done a superb job. However, MFN adds no value, and only hurts PAIX's
credibility with it's massive financial problem. PAIX without MFN will, once
again, be a great thing. Hopefully this will be soon.

- Daniel Golding

> todd glassey Says...
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> PAIX is a division of MFN (Metropolitan Fiber Networks) as Above.NET is as
> well. That means they share MFN's connectivity and peering
> agreements and as
> such are incredibly rich environments. Especially with someone like Paul
> Vixie running it, (PAIX that is) my take is that these are number one
> providers.
>
> I must admit though that I am a staunch Above.NET supporter and have been
> for ages having a single digit customer ID.
>
> Todd
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ren" <ren () internet rockstar org>
> To: "Ralph Doncaster" <ralph () istop com>
> Cc: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch () muada com>; <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Interconnects
>
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> > That depends on your corporate needs for power, security, remote hands,
> > etc.  The extended services found at Equinix & PAIX are very
> important for
> > many networks.
> >
> > -ren
> >
> > At 08:00 AM 5/17/2002 -0400, Ralph Doncaster wrote:
> > > What about NYIIX/6IIX?
> > > Being in Telehouse where there are no monthly fees for for
> cross-connects
> > > gives it a financial advantage over Equinix.
> > >
> > > Ralph Doncaster
> > > principal, IStop.com
> > > div. of Doncaster Consulting Inc.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 17 May 2002, ren wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Iljitsch,
> > > >
> > > > I would not consider Sprint NAP, a place closed to new customers for
> > > > several years, an important interconnect location in the US.  ATM
> based
> > > IXs
> > > > are not as participant rich as they were 2-3 years ago.
> > > >
> > > > The fastest growing US interconnect locations are cross-connect
> > > > enabled.  PAIX & Equinix.   Equinix-Ashburn, PAIX-Seattle,
> Equinix-Newark
> > > > and Equinix-Dallas and others have seen participation grow with a
> diverse
> > > > blend of traffic from cable operators, telcos and content providers.
> > > >
> > > > Tier-1 means what?  Look for growing sources of traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Your mileage may vary, -ren
> > > >
> > > > At 11:48 AM 5/17/2002 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A bunch of us are thinking about multihoming solutions for
> IPv6. For
> this
> > > > > purpose, it is useful to know a bit more about how actual networks
> (rather
> > > > > than the ones existing only as ASCII drawings) interconnect. So:
> > > > >
> > > > > - What are the 12 - 18 most important interconnect locations in the
> world?
> > > > >   MAE East, the Ameritech, Sprint and PacBell NAPs, PAIX, LINX and
> AMS-IX
> > > > >   come to mind, but from where I'm sitting it's hard to judge
> whether
> > > > >   others are important or marginal.
> > > > >
> > > > > - To how many of them do typical tier-1 and tier-2
> networks connect?
> > > > > - Using private or public interconnects?