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Re: list problems?
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:32:23 -0400
A degree may be completely unnecessary to be a "Network Engineer", or other similar position. The problem is that those positions are "Entry Level" in the networking industry. You probably don't need a degree to work in a NOC. Heck, and many places NOC staff have more in common with McDonald's fry cooks than with network engineers. The real question is, do you want to progress in your job? If you ever want to become a team leader, or a manger, or run a theoretical group you are going to need the math and English backgrounds that college provides. You may also need a deeper knowledge of hardware and software to understand a vendors limits, and work with them on appropriate solutions. You will need to be able to work on large projects, involving many people to do complex tasks, all part of what college can help you learn. So, do you need a degree to get a job? Absolutely not. Can you make the same money initially without a degree, most likely. However, I suspect you'll find more often than not without one in 5 years you'll have gotten your 10% raise and still be a grunt, while your coworkers who had that preparation will have been moved up to roles with more responsibility, and significantly more money. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request () tmbg org, www.tmbg.org
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- RE: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems? Patrick W. Gilmore (May 22)
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- Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems? Jim Hickstein (May 22)
- Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems? Vadim Antonov (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Leo Bicknell (May 22)
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- Re: list problems? Steve Gibbard (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Paul Vixie (May 22)
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