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Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org


From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck Nether net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:51:36 -0400


        I'd seen back in the mid 1990s a user that got banned from
all the isps on his island (or fairly close to it) due to
abuse of services.

        obviously when you have a set of only 3-4 isps to choose from
this makes it a lot easier to keep the guy from doing anything evil.

        but these days everyone that can negotiate a bulk-dial
agreement with someone and run a radius server can sign up
users and make the abuse a bit harder to track ...

        i do think some sort of smtp-callback would be nice/useful
for validation of e-mail addresses.  it'll make it so
the bounces go to someplace at least instead of Postmaster.

        - jared

        
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Robert Blayzor wrote:

Really good idea (no sarcasm, I actually like it).. But what 
stops spammers
from registering their mail server?..Ie..
    1) Get a dsl account
    2) Ips get swipped to you
    3) Register the server
    4) SPAM 
    5) Apologize, get a second chance
    6) get booted off
    7) Call the next ISP with a zero install
    8) Rinse and repeat.

Treat them sort of like SSL certs now.  Charge an annual registrar fee
per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year)  The more they
have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more
they would be deterred to do so.  They're only going to want to change
so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the
registrar so many times.

--
Robert Blayzor, BOFH
INOC, LLC
rblayzor () inoc net

Life would be much easier if I had the source code.

-- 
Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from jared () puck nether net
clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My statements are only mine.


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