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RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion
From: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen () unfix org>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:11:58 +0200
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Petri Helenius wrote:What might happen is that ISPs start using IPv6 for their(as example) DSLservices to work around addressing problems. But that isnot a userdrivendemand.Maybe the p2p vendors should implement IPv6, it might alsotake a whileuntil RIAA finds them again :-)Then I hope they'll implement RFC 3041, otherwise the RIAA will go on a massive MAC address hunt...
Hmm a MAC... and then (sweet, dude) ? I still don't get it why that would be a problem, simply because: - one can change your IP by hand and/or automagically (RFC 3041 like you mentioned) - MAC's can be changed (ifconfig hwaddr... ) And then still.. they know that 'something/one' from a certain /48 did 'something'. So what, if you pay at a store with your VISA or AMEX or simply your bankcard. That company holds at least your accountnumber, let's crossreference that. Same thing (IMHO ;) as the IP address thing, it pops up at several places and they can do many statistical stuff with it for behaviour research, buy styles etc. But then again, as long as one wants to be directly addressed you will always be 'trackable' some how. Or are you changing bank-accountnumbers, emailaddresses every 10 minutes? Which pops again into the SPAM problem, where we'd (or at least me ;) would rather be capable of verifying who is sending stuff. If one then put that into a log, one could trace people too. And the bigger MX's could do that now too ofcourse... Btw: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodt echnol/winxppro/proddocs/sag_IP_v6_add_Utils.asp ipv6 [-p] gpu UseAnonymousAddresses [yes|no|always|Counter] that's how you turn that stupid feature off, it is annoying IMHO and quite useless as usually one is on the same /64 (or /48) so one is quite traceable already. Ofcourse if you got a laptop and carry it around the world with the same EUI-64 one is quite easily indentifyble, but then still, so what; they know you go to cool places ;) Greets, Jeroen
Current thread:
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion, (continued)
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Dave Israel (Aug 29)
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Mike Leber (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Petri Helenius (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Kurtis Lindqvist (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Petri Helenius (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Kevin Oberman (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Kurtis Lindqvist (Aug 30)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Petri Helenius (Aug 30)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 30)
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Jeroen Massar (Aug 30)
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 30)
- RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Jeroen Massar (Aug 30)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Petri Helenius (Aug 29)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Kurtis Lindqvist (Aug 30)
- Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion Marshall Eubanks (Aug 30)