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RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police
From: "Christian Kuhtz" <ck () arch bellsouth net>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:42:25 -0500
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The point is this: 137-139 are used for NetBIOS and Samba, neither of which are secure (or even supported by their vendors, AFAIK) for use out on the Internet. I think we can all agree that anyone using them in that situation, shouldn't be.
I don't at all disagree. But, this isn't the same question as.. does this equal to automatically and strictly blocking such traffic? Who am I to say a customer can't use them if they decide to do so? Etc etc. Now, that isn't the same as saying 'I must not provide a mechanism for customers to protect themselves if they want to'. The opposite is true, I would like to see such mechanisms. And I think this conversation would be a lot more fruitful if we focused on how to provide mechanisms that are opt-in/opt-out/whatever and how to deal with operational, legal, engineering impact of such a decision, and provide this in a transparent, easily managable fashion to the customer. -- Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only."
Current thread:
- RE: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic?, (continued)
- RE: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Roeland Meyer (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Jim Mercer (Nov 19)
- RE: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Roeland Meyer (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Shawn McMahon (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Adam Rothschild (Nov 20)
- ISPs as content-police or method-police Ehud Gavron (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Christian Kuhtz (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Shawn McMahon (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Ben Browning (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Christian Kuhtz (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police John Kristoff (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police joshua stein (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Mark Radabaugh (Nov 20)
- RE: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Roeland Meyer (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Jim Mercer (Nov 19)
- RE: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Greg A. Woods (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Etaoin Shrdlu (Nov 19)
- Re: Operational impact of filtering SMB/NETBIOS traffic? Shawn McMahon (Nov 19)