Re: RADB Fees

[Ted Frohling <tsf () opus Telcom Arizona EDU>]

Of course, today is the first time I heard about it as well.
They `could' have sent mail to the maintainer records
at the least.

ted

Kevin Oberman wrote:

> > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr () baby-dragons com>
> >
> >
> >       Hello Kevin,
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > > From: Majdi Abbas <majdi () puck nether net>
> > > > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:20:55 -0400 (EDT)
> > > > Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu
> > > >   Heads up:
> > > >   https://www.merit.edu/radb/fee.html
> >
> > > Yes, but before getting excited, please read the full text including
> > > the part about participants at the MAEs, PAIX, AADS, and PacBell being
> > > exempt.
> >       Is this supposed to make me feel better ? Hmmm, I don't have any
> >       relationships there & I'll bet so DON'T alot of others .  These
> >       continual .05 & .10 antics of every frigging organisation that
> >       has anything todo with the internet today is getting -WAY- out
> >       line (not the prices I saw there) .  Next some idiot is going
> >       to say Because I provide toilet paper to Cisco/Bay-Networks/...
> >       I'm going to bill all of you with a wipe your backend surcharge.
> >       Signed Prodtor&Grumble or somesuch .  Gawd where does this end .
>
> Actually, it's a win for us as we have been one of the ISPs who have
> been contributing (to the tune of 5 figures) to keep the RADB alive
> for the past couple of years since the NSF quit funding it. Most of
> the world has been getting by for free, but we felt the RADB was
> essential to a well run Internet and were willing to pay (along with
> Verio, ANS, and some others) to keep it in place.
>
> There are a great many parts of the Internet that were funded by the
> government. The government has no real business running the Internet,
> so I am just as happy to see the finding become privatized.
>
> (Yes, ESnet is U.S. Government funded.)
>
> Most larger ISPs are at one of the places where the route servers are
> located and most local ISPs have their registrations handled by their
> up-streams who are at the route servers. For those who do their own,
> it will be another .05 & .10 charge, I'm afraid. But, until all
> functions that make the Internet run are funded by those who use the
> Internet, there will undoubtedly be more of them.
>
> Now that I've said that, I do think that Merit should be doing a MUCH
> better job of letting people know about this. I heard about it a
> couple of weeks ago on the RADB mailing list, but until today, nothing
> on NANOG, an obvious place for it and one managed by Merit.
>
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> E-mail: oberman () es net                  Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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