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Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL
From: Derek Balling <dredd () megacity org>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:41:58 -0800 (PST)
On Thu, 7 Feb 2036, Bob Allisat wrote:
The simple point is you or any other technician has no ability or right to imagine themselves representing or in any way inter- fering with their customers mail. You are acting as if you have any right to intercept any private e-mail. You have no such right. In manipulating the free flow of electronic mail you are infringing with fundamentaly human rigts and freedoms.
As long as I tell my customers, "We subscribe to the RBL." and give suitable explanations as to its workings, etc., my customers are free to go wherever they choose, be it to me or to another ISP. If they want, they can ALWAYS go to AOL, and have all the junkmail they could possibly want. Also keep in mind that although you and I may reside in the US, other countries' ideas of "fundamental human rights and freedoms" differ significantly from our own. The bottom line is that my mail server is PRIVATE, my own personal property, and if I choose to reject mail from people, so long as my customers know getting into it what the situation is, they have the option at any time to go to another ISP with a different policy. If all the ISP's in a market have subscribed to the RBL, then capitalism works, because the demand is obviously there. If there are a mix of subscribers and non-subscribers, then in your world, the non-RBL sites will get all the customers, and the RBL sites will lose money and either rethink their decision or die out. (Economic Darwinism). Personally I think the RBL sites have plenty of consumer-level support to survive. D ====================================================================== Derek J. Balling | "Bill Gates is a monocle and a white dredd () megacity org | fluffy cat from being a villain in the http://www.megacity.org/ | next Bond film." - Dennis Miller ======================================================================
Current thread:
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users, (continued)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Bob Allisat (Nov 20)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Phil Howard (Nov 19)
- Black Hole Vixie/RBL Bob Allisat (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Rodney Joffe (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Paul Vixie (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL dirk (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Dalvenjah FoxFire (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Karl Denninger (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Derek Balling (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Bob Allisat (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Derek Balling (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL M. David Leonard (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Dean Robb (Nov 28)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Edward S. Marshall (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL J.D. Falk (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Rich Sena (Nov 21)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Karl Denninger (Nov 19)
- RE: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Bob Allisat (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Steven J. Sobol (Nov 19)
- Bob Allisat Wayne (Nov 23)