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RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet
From: "Christian Kuhtz" <ck () adsu bellsouth com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:41:49 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 .. if I may add my $.02.. If the FCC rules that calls to ISP's are interstate and therefore inter-LATA, it would mess up a whole bunch of regulatory stuff -- IMHO. RBOCs can't sell inter-LATA access as their own. The only way it can be sold is by a third party doing the actual inter-LATA connectivity. The boundaries of what is inter-LATA and intra-LATA are getting so blurred, it is time for the FCC to do away with all this garbage. To me, this is an artificial life-support for a regulatory system which is far outlived its usefulness. It shows that the traditional telephony based wisdom has expired. Exisiting settlement models are antique and more modern ways of defining clearinghouses for connectivity cost arbitration are needed badly. I leave the final judgement of what this means to the lawyers, of which there are plenty in this matter. IMHO, the current CLEC revenue model is obscene with regards to recip comp. This is my personal opinion and I speak for myself only. Cheers, Chris - -- Christian Kuhtz <ck () adsu bellsouth com> -wk ck () gnu org -hm Sr. Network Architect, BellSouth Corp., Advanced Data Services NOTE: "We speak PGP: key available at well-known key servers." "Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord." -- /usr/games/fortune
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf
Of
MacFarland, Chris Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 9:40 PM To: Steven J. Sobol; Ivars Upatnieks Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven- The reason for this is regarding settlement charges ( reciprocal compensation ) for intrastate calls from ILEC to CLEC. If the FCC rules that calls to ISP's are interstate then the
settlement
model dramatically changes for the LEC terminating the call. This would have a significant impact on revenues for CLEC's that use recip comp as part of their core business model. Thanks, Chris MacFarland Director, Data Engineering Allegiance Telecom, Inc. 214-261-7257-----Original Message----- From: Steven J. Sobol [SMTP:sjsobol () nacs net] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 5:23 PM To: Ivars Upatnieks Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 01:39:29PM -0500, Ivars Upatnieks wrote:The Commission intends to address next week, in a separate order, the broader issue of whether conventionaldial-up accessto the Internet, made through calls to information service
providers,
including Internet Service Providers (ISPs), is local or
interstate in
nature.This stupidity again? An Internet dialup call is an interstate call if you're in one
state
dialing into a POP in another. Otherwise it's not. Duh. The FCC has much better things to do than debate a point for which
the
answer is painfully obvious. If you're going to tell me that when
I dial
up to my account in downtown Cleveland from my house tenminutes away, I'mgoing to either laugh at you, tell you you're a flaming idiot, or
quite
possibly both. Sorry. My ISDN line at home is serviced by Ameritech, andNACS's PRIs areserviced by ICG/Netcom. Maybe I should get charged for a callfrom Chicagoto Denver since Ameritech is headquaratered in Chicago and ICG is
in
Denver, even though I'm calling from Cleveland to Cleveland. If there's something obvious that I'm missing here, please, PLEASE
point
it out to me... Oh yeah. Are they going to insist on charging per-minute for voice
calls
as well as data calls? I bet not. -- Steve Sobol [sjsobol () nacs net] Part-time Support Droid [support () nacs net] NACS Spaminator [abuse () nacs net]
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Current thread:
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet, (continued)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Peter Stemwedel (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Bret McDanel (Nov 04)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet John Gonzalez/netMDC admin (Nov 03)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 09)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Peter Stemwedel (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet John Curran (Nov 03)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet MacFarland, Chris (Nov 03)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)
- RE: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Christian Kuhtz (Nov 08)
- Re: FCC Ruling, Cost of Internet Steven J. Sobol (Nov 03)