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Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful
From: Phil Lawlor <phil () agis net>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:22:59 -0500
At 07:53 PM 10/28/97 -0500, Barry Shein wrote:
Steal resources, annoy people to no possible benefit to them, bombard them 24 hrs/day with come-ons for porn and transparently fraudulent business claims and pyramid schemes and chain letters etc and they won't be happy. It's not that hard to understand: Pissing people off is not a great way to do business. In fact, it doesn't work.
I agree with the fundamental principle, however, some people are making money at UBE without regard to who, or how many people they piss off. The money is being made in selling software to do spamming, or running services that spam. At AGIS, we've seen it all. Address mungers, relay hijackers, bcc bombers, etc. It has always been our intent to stop this kind of abuse of technology. Albeit, our position and motives were misunderstood, our end has always been clear. UBErs exploit the weaknesses in the email infrastructure of the net. I still believe that until we can find technological solutions the the theft of service and forgery issues, spam as we know it will continue. Phil Lawlor President AGIS Voice - 313-730-1130 Fax - 313-563-6119
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