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Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () scfn thpl lib fl us>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:32:54 -0500
On Tue, Oct 28, 1997 at 04:05:24PM -0500, David Bowie wrote:
Phil Lawlor wrote:I am not a sendmail expert, but I am told that it is in the forgery area that it could be improved. Forgery and relay hijacking seem to be the largest areas of abuse. If these areas could be improved, it could go a long way to solving the problem.I tend to agree with Phil - to a point. Nip it in the bud. Everyone could use some strengthening in their AUP and it is up to each ISP to come down hard on those who abuse the net.
Indeed. As we noted last month on the topic of ingress filtering, you have to catch this stuff on the _intake_ side, to have any real hope of spotting the offenders. Personally, if the spam isn't forged, and is for a real product, and doesn't include a stupid bulkmail software ad at the top, I no longer chase it, I just delete it.
Ease of use, and the free flow of information must be maintained. Fraud, unrepentant misuse, and theft-of-services should result in loss of access. Zero-tolerance, and/or a charge structure (fines?) can be levied by ISPs to combat the scourge.
Fines on whom? How would you implement this? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra () baylink com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Pedantry. It's not just a job, it's an Tampa Bay, Florida adventure." -- someone on AFU +1 813 790 7592
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Howard (Oct 28)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Alex Bligh (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Lawlor (Oct 28)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 28)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful David Bowie (Oct 28)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Phil Lawlor (Oct 28)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Richard Welty (Oct 29)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful John A. Tamplin (Oct 29)
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- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Justin W. Newton (Oct 30)
- Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful Greg A. Woods (Oct 30)
- RE: Spam Control Considered Harmful Jon Lewis (Oct 28)