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Re Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:02:32 -0400




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From: Doug Humphrey <doug () joss com>
Date: March 24, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change

When the LAW changes, it is suddenly thrown into the domain of LAWYERS to determine corporate moves and responses.  

Nobody should be surprised when the response is"overly safe" because the lawyers, particularly in view of NEW law 
which is completely untested, are going to want a wide margin to stay safe from the newly (and poorly) defined edge.

Most companies see these sorts of lawsuits as huge threats to their companies.

Doug 

On Mar 24, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:




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From: Duncan Elkins <duncan () duncanelkins com>
Date: March 24, 2018 at 10:46:11 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change

The unintended consequences are already ramifying. Reddit has preemptively closed threads and subreddits where 
perfectly legal transactions were taking place, e.g., adults agreeing to meet and trade craft beer. 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/craigslist-personals-some-subreddits-disappear-with-fosta-passage/

 

On Mar 24, 2018, at 6:24 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:




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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Date: March 24, 2018 at 2:39:28 AM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change
Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com

Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change
A 1996 law sits at the heart of a major question about the modern Internet: How much responsibility should fall 
to online platforms for how their users act and get treated?
By ALINA SELYUKH
Mar 21 2018
<https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2018/03/21/591622450/section-230-a-key-legal-shield-for-facebook-google-is-about-to-change>

It's 1995, and Chris Cox is on a plane reading a newspaper. One article about a recent court decision catches his 
eye. This moment, in a way, ends up changing his life — and, to this day, it continues to change ours.

The case that caught the congressman's attention involved some posts on a bulletin board — the early-Internet 
precursor to today's social media. The ruling led to a new law, co-authored by Cox and often called simply 
"Section 230."

This 1996 statute became known as "a core pillar of Internet freedom" and "the law that gave us modern Internet" 
— a critical component of free speech online. But the journey of Section 230 runs through some of the darkest 
corners of the Web. Most egregiously, the law has been used to defend Backpage.com, a website featuring ads for 
sex with children forced into prostitution.

Today, this law still sits at the heart of a major question about the modern Internet: How much responsibility do 
online platforms have for how their users behave or get treated? 

In the first major change to Section 230 in years, Congress voted this week to make Internet companies take a 
little more responsibility than they have for content on their sites.

Library or newspaper?

The court decision that started it all had to do with some online posts about a company called Stratton Oakmont. 
On one finance-themed bulletin board, someone had accused the investment firm of fraud.

Years later, Stratton Oakmont's crimes would be turned into a Hollywood film, The Wolf of Wall Street. But in 
1994, the firm called the accusations libel and wanted to sue. But because it was the Internet, the posts were 
anonymous. So instead, the firm sued Prodigy, the online service that hosted the bulletin board.

Prodigy argued it couldn't be responsible for a user's post — like a library, it could not liable for what's 
inside its books. Or, in now-familiar terms: It's a platform, not a publisher.

The court disagreed, but for an unexpected reason: Prodigy moderated posts, cleaning up foul language. And 
because of that, the court treated Prodigy like a newspaper liable for its articles.

As Cox read about this ruling, he thought this was "exactly the wrong result": How was this amazing new thing — 
the Internet — going to blossom, if companies got punished for trying to keep things clean? "This struck me as a 
way to make the Internet a cesspool," he says.

At this moment, Cox was flying from his home in California to return to Congress. Back at work, Cox, a 
Republican, teamed up with his friend, Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden, to rectify the court precedent.

Together, they produced Section 230 — perhaps the only 20-year-old statute to be claimed by Internet companies 
and advocates as technologically prescient.

"The original purpose"

Section 230 lives inside the Communications Decency Act of 1996, and it gives websites broad legal immunity: With 
some exceptions, online platforms can't be sued for something posted by a user — and that remains true even if 
they act a little like publishers, by moderating posts or setting specific standards.

"Section 230 is as important as the First Amendment to protecting free speech online, certainly here in the 
U.S.," says Emma Llanso, a free expression advocate at the Center for Democracy and Technology.

[snip]

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