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Re Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:02:53 -0400




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From: Paul Alan Levy <plevy () citizen org>
Date: March 24, 2018 at 8:20:28 AM EDT
To: "'dave () farber net'" <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: RE: [IP] Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change

The fact of the matter is that many of my friends in the community of policy folk and lawyers who care about section 
230 immunity decided that this was the place to take a stand, claiming that the world would end if this exception to 
section 230 were adopted.  It was a stand at the weakest possible place, a place where they were very likely to lose. 
 There is some reason for concern that the attention of legislators was called to section 230 in a place that cast it 
in perhaps the worst possible light.   Those who have never liked section 230 now smell blood.
 
This is not to say that there were not perfectly fine arguments to be made about how a section 230-immune site could 
HELP with the prosecution of child-trafficking criminals, but I question the judgment of my colleagues in deciding to 
make their stand here.  Because how can they now say with credibility that the world will end the next time an 
exception is proposed – assuming that the world has not ended after this statute takes effect?
 
From: Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:25 AM
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change
 



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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Date: March 24, 2018 at 2:39:28 AM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change
Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com

Section 230: A Key Legal Shield For Facebook, Google Is About To Change
A 1996 law sits at the heart of a major question about the modern Internet: How much responsibility should fall to 
online platforms for how their users act and get treated?
By ALINA SELYUKH
Mar 21 2018
<https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2018/03/21/591622450/section-230-a-key-legal-shield-for-facebook-google-is-about-to-change>

It's 1995, and Chris Cox is on a plane reading a newspaper. One article about a recent court decision catches his 
eye. This moment, in a way, ends up changing his life — and, to this day, it continues to change ours.

The case that caught the congressman's attention involved some posts on a bulletin board — the early-Internet 
precursor to today's social media. The ruling led to a new law, co-authored by Cox and often called simply "Section 
230."

This 1996 statute became known as "a core pillar of Internet freedom" and "the law that gave us modern Internet" — a 
critical component of free speech online. But the journey of Section 230 runs through some of the darkest corners of 
the Web. Most egregiously, the law has been used to defend Backpage.com, a website featuring ads for sex with 
children forced into prostitution.

Today, this law still sits at the heart of a major question about the modern Internet: How much responsibility do 
online platforms have for how their users behave or get treated? 

In the first major change to Section 230 in years, Congress voted this week to make Internet companies take a little 
more responsibility than they have for content on their sites.

Library or newspaper?

The court decision that started it all had to do with some online posts about a company called Stratton Oakmont. On 
one finance-themed bulletin board, someone had accused the investment firm of fraud.

Years later, Stratton Oakmont's crimes would be turned into a Hollywood film, The Wolf of Wall Street. But in 1994, 
the firm called the accusations libel and wanted to sue. But because it was the Internet, the posts were anonymous. 
So instead, the firm sued Prodigy, the online service that hosted the bulletin board.

Prodigy argued it couldn't be responsible for a user's post — like a library, it could not liable for what's inside 
its books. Or, in now-familiar terms: It's a platform, not a publisher.

The court disagreed, but for an unexpected reason: Prodigy moderated posts, cleaning up foul language. And because of 
that, the court treated Prodigy like a newspaper liable for its articles.

As Cox read about this ruling, he thought this was "exactly the wrong result": How was this amazing new thing — the 
Internet — going to blossom, if companies got punished for trying to keep things clean? "This struck me as a way to 
make the Internet a cesspool," he says.

At this moment, Cox was flying from his home in California to return to Congress. Back at work, Cox, a Republican, 
teamed up with his friend, Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden, to rectify the court precedent.

Together, they produced Section 230 — perhaps the only 20-year-old statute to be claimed by Internet companies and 
advocates as technologically prescient.

"The original purpose"

Section 230 lives inside the Communications Decency Act of 1996, and it gives websites broad legal immunity: With 
some exceptions, online platforms can't be sued for something posted by a user — and that remains true even if they 
act a little like publishers, by moderating posts or setting specific standards.

"Section 230 is as important as the First Amendment to protecting free speech online, certainly here in the U.S.," 
says Emma Llanso, a free expression advocate at the Center for Democracy and Technology.

[snip]

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