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re A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:12:31 -0500





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From: Karl Auerbach <karl () cavebear com>
Date: December 2, 2009 2:27:16 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] re  A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure
Reply-To: karl () cavebear com



Steve G. and others have give us a very nice view of the net from a large scale perspective. Here is a perspective from the other end of the size scale:

Back in the latter 1980's there were several of us on the San Francisco Penninsula who were using both usenet and the IP based net, whatever name it might have had. The "we" consisted both of individuals such as John Romkey and Dave Bridgham (both from FTP Software) and small companies, such as my own Epilogue Technology.

It was a frustrating mess. We had lashups of Telebit modems, SLIP links, KA9Q engines (I hope that Phil Karn has been awarded Internet Angel wings for that), and Doug Karl (another oft overlooked contributor to the net) routers.

So one nice afternoon several of us met - several meaning enough people to sit around the largest table in The Little Garden, a Chinese restaurant in Palo Alto - to talk about buying some circuits and bolting together our own private net between San Francisco and San Jose. The net took its name from the restaurant.

The details are faint and I was only indirectly involved, but I vaguely remember tossing some money into a pot and I think it was D.V. Henkel-Wallace who took the lead in actually getting something set up.

The period from the latter '80's through the early '90's was a period of massive small ad hoc networks, such as the Little Garden.

I am sure that similar stories exist around the myriad of people and companies that arose during that era - Intercon, Internode, TGV, Beame and Whiteside, FTP Software, Epilogue Technology, Empirical Tools and Toys (Technologies), Bunyip, etc. Simon Hackett's (Internode) story of fibering and radioing Adelaide are worth a good chapter. (Simon also did the first VOIP phone of which I am aware, back around 1990.)

And we should not underestimate the driving effect of the Interop trade show which by the late 1980's was providing a twice-yearly drumbeat to which the entire industry had to synchronize and prove that it could deploy interoperating gear that we hooked to the larger net (whatever it was called).

I think that Carl Malamud may have documented parts of this self- driven localized growth of the net in one of his books.

       --karl--






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