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Re: Madness: Bailing Out Greed in Wonderland
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:50:08 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: "Ed Biebel" <edward () biebel net> Date: September 17, 2008 9:45:48 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Madness: Bailing Out Greed in Wonderland One of the things that I have not heard mentioned here but was mentioned on the BBC this morning is that AIG is the largest insurer in China. They indicated that the financial crisis had not yet hit Asia but AIG's failure would have certainly sent that country's market into a tailspin. Of course China has significant holdings in the US and I could see potential ripple effects if China started tightening its credit in the US. Ed On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:06 PM, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: September 16, 2008 8:38:26 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Madness: Bailing Out Greed in Wonderland Madness: Bailing Out Greed in Wonderland http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000428.html Greetings. I'm writing this from somewhere down the rabbit hole. I'm convinced that we must all be living in Alice's Wonderland these days, watching the parade of insanity playing across the news media machine recently. That global machine is buzzing right now with word that the Feds may be about to announce a massive bailout of AIG. This after massive federal charity for Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac to keep them from drowning in their own bad investment decisions. The AIG bailout isn't confirmed just yet, but reports appear to be converging. This is the same government that not so long ago made it much more difficult for individuals to file for personal bankruptcy, in line with the GOPs' call for "individual responsibility" in such matters. In other words, if you're a (formerly) filthy rich financial services corporation that screws up -- after getting your claws so deeply into the economy that any attempt at removal will clause a death by millions of cuts -- the taxpayers will be called upon to bail you out. On the other hand, if you're some poor slob trying to make a living actually *creating* products and services of real value -- not just pushing money around -- and you get into financial trouble -- well, the government just tells you to go to hell. And what's the GOP standard bearer's reaction to all this today? John McCain says we need -- get this -- a commission to study the problem! Another damn commission? This isn't like trying to figure out 9/11. It's completely clear how we got into this position. Greed -- lack of appropriate regulation -- the GOP's never-ending belief in "trickle-down" economics and their genuine disdain for the average working man, all wrapped up in the flag and disingenuous talking points of course. I am physically sickened watching this play out. And I guarantee you that there's no "Drink Me!" or "Eat Me!" solutions that are going to be conveniently sitting around at the bottom of this rabbit hole waiting to be cheerfully consumed. Absolute, unadulterated madness. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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