Re: Kids.....

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Rahul Tongia <tongia () cmu edu>
Date: November 13, 2008 4:22:35 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:    re: Kids.....
Reply-To: tongia () cmu edu

Dave,

I can vouch for a student *formally complaining* when I didn't respond  
to her email about a HW due on Monday. Except the student emailed  
after 5 or 6 PM friday. And complained early Sat. morning.

Why is this? Part of this shift may be due to grade inflation and  
expectations.  Are faculty also facilitating this? There are studies  
that show that a lenient or high-scoring faculty member gets better  
reviews/evaluations. Forget how well he/she served the students.   
Thus, faculty tend to want to "keep the customers happy". Universities  
are to blame for this in how they evaluate faculty.

I also think we have bi or multimodal distributions. Some students may  
be demanding, overly so, but others are quite deferential (esp. some  
international students).  I certainly don't want submissive sheep for  
students. But I don't want students who think they are right by default.

Rahul


David Farber wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
> Date: November 11, 2008 11:35:52 AM EST
> To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] re: Kids.....
> [Note:  This comment comes from reader Mike O'Dell.  DLH]
> From: Michael O'Dell <mo () ccr org>
> Date: November 11, 2008 6:49:25 AM PST
> To: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
> Subject: re: Kids.....
> my major professor had a phrase he would use (back in the 70s!!)
> to express his outrage at wacko "student expectations"
> "This is NOT a #$%@$!%@ High School with Ash Trays!"
> a bit dated, obviously, but the sentiment is no less the case
> 30 years later.
> -mo
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