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Re: "Skills gap"?
From: Kyle Creyts <kyle.creyts () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:44:43 -0800
I know a lot of people who recently joined the workforce in IT and infosec, and I know few enough who are happy or satisfied with their pay; part of the problem is the way paragon status has been conferred upon those with a trivial set of skills, a good break with the press, and sense of opportunism. The role models for some of the younger entrants are very successful, but not very humble. Many have come to expect higher wages for some of these skills, with "possession of skills and experience" being defined by the individual and their evaluator rather than the industry as a whole, or even a majority. I am not defining a skillset when I say "skills in pen-testing" or "skills in data forensics" or "firewall management experience," though it would seem many people believe that these words seem to embody such a skillset. It would seem that some standards (I know, it seems hard to keep standards current with the rapid evolution of knowledge in our field) would greatly aid in giving these people proper perspective. Knowing more about something than anyone you know doesn't necessarily make you an expert. As an industry, we lack some authoritative reference points to help individuals understand where they stand in knowledge and experience. Admittedly, we work in a field where young authority seems somewhat commonplace. Perhaps this influences the perception of those new to the workforce, or even those who have been around a while? But who am I to comment? I'm just another young guy, recently having entered the workforce... On Nov 24, 2012 9:59 AM, "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" < rmslade () shaw ca> wrote:
I see a lot of companies complaining that they can't get skilled/trained infosec people. I see a lot of experienced infosec people out of work. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/skills-dont-pay-the-bills.html ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org As the harbor is welcome to the sailor, so is the last line to the scribe. - marginalia by scribe/copyist monk victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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