Re: Fwd: "Skills gap"?

[Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>]

Throwing gasoline on a blazing fire, eh?  ;-)

- ferg

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Pirk <pirkster () gmail com> wrote:

> I think IT workers need to unionize </ducks> :-)
>
> On Nov 24, 2012 12:56 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:
> > Forgot to copy the list...
> >
> > - ferg
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
> > Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] "Skills gap"?
> > To: Dirt Nap <dirtnap () gmail com>
> >
> >
> > Well, I can't speak to every situation, of course, but I'm finding it
> > quite hard to fill open jobs. And it's not really a matter of salary,
> > but I *do* find it somewhat troublesome that anyone who has worked in
> > Infosec for any significant amount of time expects a "rock star"
> > salary... Having said that, I am happy to pay people above "entry
> > level", but let's be for real here. :-)
> >
> > - ferg
> >
> > p.s. I am hiring. :-)
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dirt Nap <dirtnap () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > The problem I find in my area is when it comes to info sec jobs they
> > > have a
> > > certain level of expectations.  For example they expect someone who has
> > > worked info sec for 10 years to accept a salary that is to say the least
> > > entry level.  When you try to negotiate with them to bump the salary up
> > > they
> > > refuse.  The position doesn't get filled, or if it does it becomes open
> > > after 90 days because the person seeks employment elsewhere.
> > >
> > > On Nov 24, 2012 2:48 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > B.S.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There *are* significant "wage increases, at least in Infosec.
> > > >
> > > > - ferg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
> > > > Hannah <rmslade () shaw ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I see a lot of companies complaining that they can't get
> > > > > skilled/trained
> > > > > infosec
> > > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see a lot of experienced infosec people out of work.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/skills-dont-pay-the-bills.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
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