Re: 95% of User Generated Content is spam or malicious

[Joel Esler <joel.esler () me com>]

95% of this thread is nonsense.

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100% of the statistics in my email are made up.

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Joel Esler
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On Tuesday, February 23, 2010, at 02:48PM, "Hubbard, Dan" <dhubbard () websense com> wrote:
> All;
>
> I am guilty of being way late to this party, however...
>
> Whoever started this thread where did you get the 95% stat from? This may be completely off and/or irrelevant but I am 
> *guessing* that the stat 95% of User Generated Content (UGC) is coming from us. This actually is *not* email SPAM. 
> This is comment-spam in the form of web-posts into blogs, forums,etc..
>
> Just wondering if the leap was made from UGC to email SPAM somehow. 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Dan Kaminsky
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:42 AM
> To: Rich Kulawiec
> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [funsec] 95% of User Generated Content is spam or malicious
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:34:56AM -0500, Dan Kaminsky wrote:
> > > All I know is that I have a couple of email accounts that get
> > > negligible amounts of spam.  Oh, they're *sent* huge amounts, but they
> > > receive almost none.
> >
> > But this is not the only metric with which to evaluate mail defenses.
>
> I disagree.  This is the only metric that matters:  In 2007, I got a
> lot of spam.  In 2010, I get a few messages *a month*.
>
> A MONTH!
>
> > Anyway, one of the direct consequences of this reality is that testing
> > methodologies need to be very carefully constructed.  Anyone who
> > just plugs boxes from vendors X Y and Z into their network and does a
> > head-to-head comparison is not going to get a true picture of how those
> > systems really compare: they're only going to get a limited picture of how
> > those systems compare at the moment on their network(s) on their ASN(s)
> > with their domain(s).
>
> Spam fighting as a product seems to be having problems.  Spam fighting
> as a service is doing extremely well.
>
> Who knows.  Maybe the bad guys are reverse engineering all the
> products, but can't do the same to the services.
>
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