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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253sparks strict security rules for air passengers


From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:55:12 -0800

I used the term "soldier" to mean US soldiers, I should have been more
specific.

And death, preferably by burning in Jet A, would be justice for Bin
Laden. You know that's how most of the victims in the twin towers died,
right? The jumpers were opting for a less horrendous death.

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253sparks strict security rules for air passengers

There are those who say the same is true of the IT security industry:
that we don't address the root problems because the problems keep us
in business.  We know that isn't true.

Do we?

While I know it isn't true of me personally, I feel sure it is true of
some fraction of IT-sec people (though I also suspect that fraction is
quite small) but is it true of the industry?  I don't know.
Organizations often exhibit epiphenomenal behaviour very different from
and not directly traceable to the behaviours of the individuals making
them up.

[...] I don't think there is a single soldier on the planet who
wouldn't give significant parts of their anatomy to bring Bin Laden
to justice.

Even if restricted to "the West", I doubt that's so; there are enough
soldiers that I feel reasonably sure there are at least a few who
really don't much care either way - and substantially more, enough to
speak of them as a fraction rather than a count of invidivuals, who
just want him dead and justice (FWVO "justice") take the hindmost.

Not that I'm happy about either. :-/  (I'm fairly lawfully aligned, and
that includes a strong belief in rule-of-law....)

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