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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253sparks strict security rules for air passengers
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:55:12 -0800
I used the term "soldier" to mean US soldiers, I should have been more specific. And death, preferably by burning in Jet A, would be justice for Bin Laden. You know that's how most of the victims in the twin towers died, right? The jumpers were opting for a less horrendous death. -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of der Mouse Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:04 AM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253sparks strict security rules for air passengers
There are those who say the same is true of the IT security industry: that we don't address the root problems because the problems keep us in business. We know that isn't true.
Do we? While I know it isn't true of me personally, I feel sure it is true of some fraction of IT-sec people (though I also suspect that fraction is quite small) but is it true of the industry? I don't know. Organizations often exhibit epiphenomenal behaviour very different from and not directly traceable to the behaviours of the individuals making them up.
[...] I don't think there is a single soldier on the planet who wouldn't give significant parts of their anatomy to bring Bin Laden to justice.
Even if restricted to "the West", I doubt that's so; there are enough soldiers that I feel reasonably sure there are at least a few who really don't much care either way - and substantially more, enough to speak of them as a fraction rather than a count of invidivuals, who just want him dead and justice (FWVO "justice") take the hindmost. Not that I'm happy about either. :-/ (I'm fairly lawfully aligned, and that includes a strong belief in rule-of-law....) /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Buhrmaster, Gary (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers der Mouse (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Alex Eckelberry (Dec 28)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Larry Seltzer (Dec 28)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul M Moriarty (Dec 26)