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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:58:35 +0300
Jon Kibler wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:IE: That a Democratic Republic has a better chance of averting catastrophe than an Oligarchy. History tends to prove my point.I beg to disagree. History proves the exact opposite point. The last great democracy before ours, in Athens, lasted a mere couple of hundred of years and was continually marked by in-fighting and wars of conquest, with the mob appeal of conquest being the eventual fall of Athens. On the other hand, great oligarchies, such as the Roman Catholic Church, have lasted for at least 1,500 years -- and some would argue that its reach has been nearly the full 2 millenia of its existence. Don't claim to use history to prove a point if you don't know your history!
Actually, Athens was a REAL democracy. Every *citizen* could vote. This obviously led to groups of power which may have well have been oligarchy. The Church is not a country. Rome was a republic. Gadi.
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 23)
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rich Kulawiec (Aug 03)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Jon Kibler (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Gadi Evron (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Larry Seltzer (Jul 24)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Gadi Evron (Jul 24)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
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