Re: WHAT TIMING!!

["Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>]

On 8/29/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:29:55 CDT, Brian Loe said:
>
> > Thanks for responding to someone else's question - did your filter
> > fail? Was my signature somehow not in that e-mail?
>
> Odd.. Looked like your question to me.  Quoted material follows, with
> *original* citation marks etc as they arrived here:

(WOW!!)

You really can't remember what you have typed and haven't typed?!

Here is the full original, with headers, best as I can reproduce them.
You'll note that not only does the body text show that I'm quoting
Oliver but I'm responding to him personally as well as funsec. YOU did
not post "There is no license to kill - for no one and from no one."
And that is the statement I was responding to with the question:
        
        
        from            Brian Loe <knobdy () gmail com>
        to              Oliver Schneider <Borbarad () gmxpro net>       
        cc              funsec () linuxbox org  
        date            Aug 29, 2007 2:22 PM    
        subject         Re: [funsec] WHAT TIMING!!      
        mailed-by               gmail.com       
On 8/29/07, Oliver Schneider <Borbarad () gmxpro net> wrote:

> Only one partial objection in cases where the "sports" is to train for killing.

It could be used as training for killing - as can a student driver
course or a pilot license training camp. Generally sport shooting is
for knocking over targets or putting holes in them. Often, the targets
are shaped like the torso of a man or an animal (and generally scaled
to imitate a particular distance).

> > So your country's soldiers are murderers?
> Yes, if they kill. But I am not a citizen of Iceland and in any case it's not limited to my country, for that matter.

It doesn't matter what country. A soldier is not a murderer because he
kills. I hope those who have argued against my position in the past -
but have a kid or loved one in the armed forces take note - this is
the inevitable extreme of your belief.

> There is no license to kill - for no one and from no one.

Where does this idea of yours come from? If religious - I"m unaware of
a single religion which forbids killing. If its not, well then, its an
atheist free-for-all - or it comes down to property rights.

In all of these instances, the morals concerning the taking of another
man's life is only MURDER to done to take that life as opposed to save
the life of another - or property, for that matter.
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