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Re: UK: Internet User Admits 'Web-Rage'


From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:39:36 -0500

On 10/18/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> Good technical answer. Odd though, since I think the banning of "ugly"
> knives will have no effect when everyone still has access to the much
> more commonly used kitchen knife - while you have the "wacky idea"
> that only "ugly" knives need to be banned since the intent of those
> inanimate objects is to stick people.
>
> Also surpising that all of those ugly knives I'm around haven't hopped
> up and stuck me! Nevermind all those firearms...

Well, I'm not the expert on UK weapon laws that you seem to be, but my
understanding is that we have two lots of laws regarding knives.

Never claimed to be an expert on anyone's laws, just building on what
you said, "Not if it was a kitchen knife. Which isn't contraband, but
just as lethal."

One lot
isn't actually knife law, it's a general-purpose law against sticking
implements into other people.

That sounds like assault. It really has nothing to do with knives or
any other weapon - it has to do with the violation of a person's
inalienable rights to life, liberty and property.


The other one is a carry law - you can't
swagger down the street waving a lethal weapon, although you can, of
course, carry home a knife that you just bought for your kitchen.

Seems to me that you must be very confused. Carry laws refer to the
CARRYING of things - they don't have "amnesty hand-ins" for things
you're carrying, they have them for things they don't want you to have
- to carry, collect, or any other purpose.


You liberals just make your own facts, don't you?

Your use of "liberal" isn't clever - odd that you would continue it.


If you have a loaded gun pointing at yourself, then you're violating all
the rules of gun safety that I thought you liberals were so keen on.

So gun safety is a "wacky idea"?

And no, its not breaking a safety rule to have a loaded, holstered
firearm sitting on the table across the room from me. It would be
breaking the rules should I, or someone, pick up the loaded gun,
remove it from the holster and then point it at ANYTHING they don't
want to shoot. But, I realize that requires a certain level of common
sense, so you're off the hook.
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