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Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality
From: Kevin McAleavey <kevinmca () nsclean com>
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:34:25 -0400
Heh. "ditto" ... well, "supply-side" has had 25+ years now. Check your gas pump. Check your "Wal*Mart" prison labour ... just like the 80's, this whole "trickle-down" is yellowish in color. :) A "market economy" has lowered wages, lowered expectations, trashed pensions, bankrupted social security as well as the treasury, created unnecessary global conflicts, made MANY enemies who seem to be gaining on "us" but yeah ... OK ... if you insist. Minda ya, this is the wrong place for politics so I won't bother since it just ain't right ... but lemme remind ya, GAS TANK, 32% popular and Rush Limbaugh is a JUNKIE. Go ahead, stroke that stuff, SMOKE that stuff, but the populace is lighting torches and has had ENOUGH of the stuff you're peddling. I'll leave it there. =) "Faith-based paychecks." I can do that. Behold ... HERE is my OWN gospel, see how it fits yours ... --- Alexander Tyler, (in his 1770 book, 'Cycle of Democracy' ) "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a lousy fiscal responsibility, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world's great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage." --- Now TELL me about "God's Own Party" (GOP) and why I should even attempt to pretend to buy this bullsquirt anymore after 25 years of PROOF of the end result? =) Sorry, I'm AARP ... BEEN there, DONE that ... and the promise of the "uber-republic" has come home to roost with a PR sheet ... nope. At 05:06 PM 5/3/06, Unca Brian wrote:
You're wrong on more levels than I care to address, but here's two: 1) There is no better system than the free market system. In the days when it was experienced, it was beautiful. YOU have not experienced it, regardless of where you live. THIS (what we have in the US) is not a free market. It IS, however, the most free market around... 2) Cable companies DO own the wires, where I live and probably where you live. They are not reselling a telco's bandwidth or connectivity or anything else - they're in direct competition with one another. They're also offering long distance services with their Internet and VoIP offerings. The local telco is now AT&T again (as it always should have been - if the market were free) and they're offering all of those services as well as pimping satellite television programming. THAT is deregulation - and it works splendidly. I've worked for both Sprint and AT&T - during the beginnings of deregulation - and as much of a nightmare that process has been, its worth it in the end. Oh yeah, why do you think DSL is underpriced? Where do you live?!! On 5/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <kevinmca () nsclean com> wrote:Heh. There's several issues at play with telcos here in "Los Estados Unidos" ("Mi Casa es su casa" says fearless leader) ... they are what is called "regulated monopolies" and as such are entitled to a regulated "guaranteed rate of return" and therefore not subject to the usual marketplace forces. Deregulation has been a miserable failure as well as most other aspects of "free marketplace" have proven over the last 25 years ... wonder why petrol costs what it does? Speculators on the U.S. Commodities exchange who, when they get a whiff of "instability" bid up the prices on "crude" ... nevermind that the shortages here are the result of a lack of refining capacity and NOT a shortage of crude ... they stain their drawers every time Osama puts a videotape on Al Jazzy and bid the price up._______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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