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Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 19:09:47 +0100 (BST)
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Greg Poirier wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 14:32 +0100, Drsolly wrote:So, if you take Sourceforge, for example. If ATT (or whoever sells them packets) decide to bump up their hosting cost substantially, they'll look around for a competing provider, and they'll find one, even if they have to relocate. And on the internet, relocating isn't difficult.I think I've been thinking of this the wrong way. It isn't about increasing the cost of bandwidth, really.
Well, that's a pity. I'd quite like to buy bandwidth at the same price that Google pays.
I think what is at stake here are provisions made in Part II of the Communications Act of 1934 (as ammended by the Telecommunications Act of 1996) that provide for non-discriminatory charging practices by Local Exchange Carriers and Common Communication Carriers (phone, cable companies and other bandwidth providers I believe are included in the definition of these terms).But this is already in place. What I find hard to fathom, is what *change* is proposed.Currently, I believe communications providers are prohibited from using equipment or any other means to purposefully slow down access to competitors.
So all the people selling "packet shaping" equipment better make sure they don't sell to ISPs, right? No - if I buy 1 megabit, I don't really expect to get more than 1 megabit, even though it means that when my pipe is saturated, access to my server will get slower.
Without these provisions, there is nothing stopping Bell South from disallowing access to Yahoo or Google's portal pages for all of its customers. I think Bell South may lose customers if they did something like that, but right now that's what they can't do and what they'd be able to do should Net Neutrality(tm) be abandoned.
I'm still having trouble understanding this whole issue. If its about banning discriminatory pricing, then it flies in the face of all normal commercial practice. You simply do not charge everyone the same price. For example, people who buy big volume, usually get offered a better price. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Fergie (May 02)
- RE: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Blanchard_Michael (May 02)
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- RE: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Fergie (May 02)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Dude VanWinkle (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Greg Poirier (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Drsolly (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Greg Poirier (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Drsolly (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Greg Poirier (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Dude VanWinkle (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Greg Poirier (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Dude VanWinkle (May 03)
- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Brian Loe (May 03)
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- Re: U.S. Finance Sector Weighs In on Net Neutrality Kevin McAleavey (May 03)
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