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RE: turn in your knives!
From: Alex Eckelberry <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 17:43:01 -0400
I think that brings up a point that infuriated many gun owners. The so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" was inferred as a ban on "machine guns". In fact, an "assault weapon" is not even a machine gun. It's a normal semi-automatic rifle that looks mean and ugly. Machine guns have been outlawed for over 70 years. (Semi-automatic rifles are not machine guns. You have to pull the trigger each time to shoot a round). For example, the Ruger Mini 14 is a common "varmit" rifle on many ranches in the west, shooting a .223 round. The AR-15 shoots exactly the same bullet, and also is a semi-automatic rifle (not a machine gun). However, because it looks like a military rifle, it was the subject of an "assault weapons" ban in California, and ultimately federally through the national ban. It was a brilliant re-labeling by Handgun Control Inc. (the major backer of gun control legislation) and resulted in the "man on the street" being completely in favor of outlawing those "terrible assault weapons". Of course, to anyone who had the faintest idea of the technical aspects of the guns, it was ludicrous and laughable. This points out how reactionary the debate can be. There is a tremendous amount of confusion on the subject of guns (both for and against them), which is exacerbated by the fact that most people have had little or no contact with guns, and hence simply don't understand their mechanics. I think if the debate can be framed without slick PR tricks, and in the vein of common sense, it starts to become palatable to both sides, as opposed to reactionary. Alex -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Brian Loe Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:51 PM To: David Lodge Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; Blue Boar Subject: Re: [funsec] turn in your knives! On 5/27/06, David Lodge <dave () cirt net> wrote:
Most of those swords are useless replicas that would hold an edge for about 3 seconds and break before they hit bone - not really much of a threat...
Those that fear weapons of all stripes aren't concerned with threat levels, just that it "looks ugly". The AWB was nothing more than a restriction on cosmetics after all. Face it, if they fear inanimate objects and not the people who use them they don't have the mental capacity to judge much of anything, let alone threat levels. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: turn in your knives!, (continued)
- Re: turn in your knives! David Lodge (May 27)
- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 27)
- Re: turn in your knives! Valdis . Kletnieks (May 26)
- Re: turn in your knives! Dude VanWinkle (May 24)
- Re: turn in your knives! Drsolly (May 24)
- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 24)
- RE: turn in your knives! Alex Eckelberry (May 24)
- Re: turn in your knives! Thomas C. Greene (May 24)
- RE: turn in your knives! Brian Azzopardi (May 25)
- Re: turn in your knives! Gary Warner (May 25)
- RE: turn in your knives! Alex Eckelberry (May 27)
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- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 30)
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- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 30)
- RE: turn in your knives! Blanchard_Michael (May 30)
- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 30)
- RE: turn in your knives! Blanchard_Michael (May 30)
- Re: turn in your knives! Valdis . Kletnieks (May 30)
- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 30)
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- RE: turn in your knives! Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (May 30)