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Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:21:56 +0000 (GMT)
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Dude VanWinkle wrote:
On 2/6/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:Nothing wrong with that. In England, we have First Class Post and Second Class Post. We also have a Bulk post rate, and a bulk sorted post rate, and oodles of others. This is a step twoards the system I've been advocating. An economics solution to an economics problem.SO, I have to go through the same filters that are in place today, but I can pay to sidestep these if I want to. Which is basically me admitting that my message is Spam, and would be caught in your filters (which are getting better all the time IMO).
Actually, if you're willing to pay for your message to get through, then you're saying that it's really important (compared to a message that you're not willing to pay for). That isn't saying that it's spam. Let me give an example. Suppose an ISP has a million paid subscribers, and 100,000 of those give an AOL address as their primary address. Now, suppose that ISP needs to send an email to all their users, announcing a price increase (or decrease, or something). That ISP would be very keen for people to receive that email. And (even though it's going to a million people) it isn't spam, because there's an ongoing business relationship, and the email is about an important element of that. But the AOL anti-spam filters might filter out that email (the AOL anti-spam filters have no way of knowing about the ongoing business relationship). So that ISP might well decide that it's worth paying $1000 (assuming 1c per email) to ensure that their email doesn't get blocked. Even if the ISP isn't planning to do a bulk email to users, it can be extremely annoying to receive an email from a user that requires and answer (e.g., "I think you double-billed me") and to have no way to answer that email. Well worth 1c to ensure that the answer to that gets through.
Just sounds like a way for AOL/Yahoo to make money off their users spare time, while delivering them more stuff they dont want and degrading the service (and quality of emails) received. Guess you get what you pay for with a free email account.
Actually, it's a way for AOL/Yahoo to contnue to deliver free email to their users, while at the same time letting people pay for the delivery of email that the sender regards as worth paying to deliver. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard M. Smith (Feb 04)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 05)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Feb 06)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Nick FitzGerald (Feb 06)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 06)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard Cox (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail der Mouse (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Nick FitzGerald (Feb 06)