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Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...
From: adam <adam () papsy net>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:58:40 -0500
the judge can stick you in jail till you decide to change your mind.
That sums up the point entirely. In ALL of those cases, a judge deemed [whatever] contempt - law enforcement *did not*. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:53 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:35:16 CDT, adam said:"(Option 3 - the guy heads downtown on a contempt of court charge -happens sorarely that it's basically a hypothetical)." You do realize that (at least in the US) - contempt is *not* a criminal offense, don't you?tl;dr: Doesn't matter, you can end up in the slammer anyhow. Actually, the general rule is that if it's a civil proceeding it's only civil contempt. Refusing to comply with warrants or subpoenas pursuant to a criminal proceeding could very well get you criminal contempt. And even in civil proceedings the judge can stick you in jail till you decide to change your mind. And we're certainly discussing a criminal proceeding here. Journalist Judith Miller got to spend 4 months in jail for refusing to cooperate with a grand jury investigation. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Judith_Miller_(journalist)#Contempt_of_court And this dude spent 14 years in jail on a *civil* contempt charge: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/H._Beatty_Chadwick
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