RE: HTTP AUTH BASIC monowall.

["Lyal Collins" <lyal.collins () key2it com au>]

I find a central issue that often reoccurs when discussing secure protocols
is the definition of where the secure protocol starts and stops - the user,
the application, or some underlying OS/functional library or network device?

There are usually huge chasms between the business, legal and
technical/security guru perspective on this - but in my experience these
differences significantly influence purchase and implementation budget
decisions.

Lyal

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On Monday 13 March 2006 15:17, Lyal Collins wrote:
> Yup, that's right: All PKI authentication is only as good as the 
> passwords protecting private keys where such passwords exist, and the 
> complementary endpoint security controls.

<snip>

I thought you might be meaning something like that.  I would say that 
these problems are out of scope for a discussion of secure 
communication protocols.  E.g. Alice is considered synonymous with her 
computer.  Once you open up the possibility that Alice (or Bob) have 
been hacked, there's no real point to discussing how to secure her 
communications.  But in a more pedantic sense, yes, you are correct.

Jeremy

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