Full Disclosure mailing list archives
Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics
From: "J. Oquendo" <sil () infiltrated net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:49:16 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, bkfsec wrote:
n3td3v wrote: Why are you on the Full Disclosure mailing list again?
To offer single sided right winged Hitlerish views of his personal Nirvana of what security should be knowing little about it.
You do realize that the concept of Full Disclosure includes analyzing defacement sites and that there is, in fact, a legitimate reason to have that archive available, right?
I recall when Attrition was in their "Heyday" and some issues they ran into archiving defaced sites. I also take note of the dual edged sword regarding displaying defacements. Take into account the actions (or alleged actions) of John Vranesevich former kiddiot at AntiOnline now on the UnEmploymentLine or wherever he is. It was alleged he ended up paying his kiddiotic friends to deface sites so he could whore a story. This can be corroborated by others who've been around for some time.
If the Secret Service or the FBI or whoever were to commit "war" on this type of act, the next thing is crime dramas, books on criminal activity and history, and other such materials.
Agencies in the US only take note when its to their benefit. I could track down some of these idiots within minutes. Agencies only do so when it suits their agendas. "Gee we need more money in our budget. I know, let's go arrest little hax0r_X_f00_f00_f00 and implement a cybersecurity department in our town!"
Why do you, n3td3v, hate freedom? Why do you, like so many unthinking people, personally rail against your own best interests? Do you honestly believe that site defacements would just go away if archive sites didn't exist? Please... spare us that line of (un)thought. -bkfsec
Likely because his profile indicates he is trying to speak outside of his experience range. He seems to be trying to fish for an angle... "If I say this people with think I'm jolly krad!". Of all the posts I've read concerning this matter he seems to be stuck on clueless trying to get a shoe on which won't fit. Instead of waisting his time rambling on about the political aspects of "security" he should be perhaps getting a clue on it before sticking his foot down his throat. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo GPG Key ID 0x97B43D89 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x97B43D89 "Just one more time for the sake of sanity tell me why explain the gravity that drove you to this..." Assemblage _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics, (continued)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics str0ke (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics str0ke (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics fd (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- RE: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Aditya Deshmukh (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Frank de Wit (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics bkfsec (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- RE: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics security curmudgeon (Sep 27)