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Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics


From: Andre Ludwig <andre.ludwig () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:57:45 -0400

I figured it out..

N3td3v is trying to throw the SVR/GRU off his trail by acting like a
whitehat(e) while he concocts his diabolical plan for world domination
by releasing a multi vector aim/yahoo/msn 0day worm.

n3t don't worry your secret is safe with me!

"Opps i did it again"
http://tinyurl.com/b8cz5


n3td3v, just chill out a bit man you are coming off as the tinfoil type..

Dre


On 9/27/05, bkfsec <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org> wrote:
J. Oquendo wrote:

To offer single sided right winged Hitlerish views of his personal Nirvana
of what security should be knowing little about it.


Hahahaha... too true.

I recall when Attrition was in their "Heyday" and some issues they ran
into archiving defaced sites. I also take note of the dual edged sword
regarding displaying defacements. Take into account the actions (or
alleged actions) of John Vranesevich former kiddiot at AntiOnline now on
the UnEmploymentLine or wherever he is. It was alleged he ended up paying
his kiddiotic friends to deface sites so he could whore a story. This can
be corroborated by others who've been around for some time.



Yep... and there have been scandals, as I recall, in the past where the
news either angled for a position in a major disaster or actually
orchestrated an attack in process... (anyone remember the issue with the
L.A. riots and that person in the truck who got attacked?)

But, should we then throw the baby out with the bathwater and ban the
news?  Of course not...

Agencies in the US only take note when its to their benefit. I could track
down some of these idiots within minutes. Agencies only do so when it
suits their agendas. "Gee we need more money in our budget. I know, let's
go arrest little hax0r_X_f00_f00_f00 and implement a cybersecurity
department in our town!"


Yep... well, virtually everything is a cost-benefit ratio in this
world.   Aside from that, though, people would still deface sites
regardless of whether there was an archive site up.  The primary motive
for the defacement is often the initially hit of defacement itself.

Frankly, what's a bigger issue than general defacement is when the
kiddies put spyware or trojans on the defaced site....


Likely because his profile indicates he is trying to speak outside of his
experience range. He seems to be trying to fish for an angle... "If I say
this people with think I'm jolly krad!".

Hahaha... I haven't seen the word "krad" used in a long time... it's
funny, these kiddies try to act all |<-rad |<001 31334 but they lose the
lingo in their focus on the idiotic lettering... it's like wannabes
failing at being wannabes.

Of all the posts I've read concerning this matter he seems to be stuck on clueless trying to get a
shoe on which won't fit. Instead of waisting his time rambling on about
the political aspects of "security" he should be perhaps getting a clue on
it before sticking his foot down his throat.


Agreed.

             -bkfsec

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