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Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics


From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:38:31 +0100

Do newspaper sites ask suicide bombers to submit videos?

Do newspaper sites keep a chart of the top suicide bombers?

Do newspaper sites give you special status if you bomb a gov building?

Thats what Zone-H does in the cyber terrorism world.

It is not the same as a newspaper or newspaper site.

I would like to see how long CNN.com would stay online if it started
supporting terrorists to submit suicide bombings, and rate them by the
importance of the building they bombed. And an archive of top
terrorist groups who submit that information? Why hasn't CNN.com done
that yet?

And if Zone-H is "OK", then why haven't sites like CNN.com and
all-the-others setup a "submit your cyber terrorism attacks" yet.

Thats all for now,
Thanks, n3td3v

On 9/27/05, Richard Horsman <richardh () sec-1 com> wrote:
n3td3v,

I would compare zone-h more to a newspaper than a terrorists site.
Newspapers report what is happening in the world whether it's good news
or bad news. Zone-h brings news about defacements and other security
related issues, it does not encourage defacements.

Richh


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[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: 27 September 2005 17:10
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Third issue of the Zone-H Comics

Hi,

I have reviewed your site and it sucks.

Looks like you're trying to encourage the activity of webpage
defacement and bringing celebrity status to those who can deface/
submit the most defacements.

You make it look legal by saying the site is useful for research, but
really, we all know it encourages the malicious kids who submit to the
site. I don't know why the security services in the U.S haven't closed
you down.

Your site is in comparison to asking terrorist bombers to post suicide
bombing videos to a website and asking you to look at it. The only
difference here is, Zone-H is about cyber terrorism, rather than
terrorism in the real world.

Do the U.S security services take cyber terrorism as seriously as real
world terrorism? And if they do, Why is Zone-H still online?

A journalist should ask that question at Bush's next news conference.

Also:
Are Zone-H admins about to expand the website to allow for suicide
bombing video's, or is that different from the cyber terrorism that
your site currently supports. And if you don't support cyber
terrorism, then why is Zone-H online and why are you an admin of
Zone-H.org

Thats all for now,

Thanks,
n3td3v


On 9/27/05, Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo <astharot () zone-h org> wrote:
Hello,
 http://www.zone-h.org
 Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo - Zone-H Admin
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