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Re: Bigger burger roll needed
From: Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:53:14 -0400
Bruce, I don't think you are going to find hard "evidence" for either conclusion. But Bruce's conclusion is consistent with my own experiences, and that of many other Administrators that I discuss issues like this with. Since its inception, supporting NT 3.0 beta and onward, I have been dealing with BSOD's. In total, there have been comparatively very few times were it was a direct fault of MS code. It has very commonly been in relation to 3rd party drivers that needed reworking or updating by the 3rd-party manufacturer. This is not PR spin (of which I don't think you could find any published PR spin for either side of this argument either). This is real world experience with the NT+ products across i386 and Alpha hardware platforms using peripheral devices from many different major manufactures. There are admins on both sides of the anti-MS fence that I communicate with that would agree with this conclusion. On 10/3/05, Bruce Ediger <eballen1 () qwest net> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Steve Friedl wrote:The majority of BSODs are caused by buggy third-party drivers and malware (rootkits, etc.) Is that part of "Microsoft's monopolistic abuse"?Does any kind of evidence (apart from PR-flack-based spin) exist for this conclusion? Can you point me to it? Sincerely, Bruce Ediger _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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