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RE: Bigger burger roll needed
From: "Randall M" <randallm () fidmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:25:44 -0500
Virus Friendly and phased might be to young to remember the old saying "what you want the next generation to believe begin teaching this generation". It is a known fact that the major cause of computer criminal acts is the result of careless and uneducated users. I have said it again and again, the "User" is the best defense any Admin can have. If she or he understands the dangers they will not click the tempting link or download the pretty card. And if they take what they have learned home with them they diminish the Botnet army. As far as "16 year olds can pass the CISSP exam" statement, that's a dam educated user. Thank You Randall M ===================== "You too can have your very own Computer!" Note: Side effects include: Blue screens; interrupt violation; illegal operations; remote code exploitations; virus and mailware infestations; and other unknown vulnerabilities. ::::-----Original Message----- ::::From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk ::::[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On ::::Behalf Of phased ::::Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:26 AM ::::To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk ::::Subject: Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] Bigger burger roll needed :::: ::::"Put information infront of the user, on unrelated pages. ::::Keep doing it and eventually users will educated on a ::::reasonable level to better check and patch systems, before ::::the authors of malicious code and script kids get to them ::::first." n3td3v :::: ::::No, your receptionist really couldnt give a shit, they have ::::enough to do without reading security advisories spammed to ::::them every day. What you would find is that they will ::::probably learn more about adding a spam filter than ::::securing their PC. Educating end users on risk is good, ::::but you cant expect them to patch their own systems ::::especially when someone else is being paid to, or do you ::::want to be out of a job? :) :::: ::::-----Original Message----- ::::From: Virus Friendly <virus.friendly () gmail com> ::::To: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> ::::Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 04:47:09 -0400 ::::Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Bigger burger roll needed :::: ::::> I like how security professionals see themselves as part of the ::::> intellectual elite and the "computer users" as the ::::ignorant hoards. ::::> In a field where anyone is call an "expert", and 16 year ::::olds can pass ::::> a CISSP, how is it that these "experts" forget they are only a ::::> certification away from being clueless. ::::> ::::> On 10/1/05, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote: ::::> > ::::> > Hello to security community, ::::> > ::::> > n3td3v thought you might like to be alerted to his ::::latest internet ::::> > posting on corporate security and the relation between ::::corporations, ::::> > the consumer..... and computer security. ::::> > ::::> > Details: ::::> > ::::> > ::::> > ::::http://news.com.com/5208-12-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=10054&messageI ::::> > D=72865&start=-196 ::::> > ::::> > Yours truely, ::::> > ::::> > n3td3v ::::> > _______________________________________________ ::::> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. ::::> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html ::::> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ::::> > ::::> ::::> ::::> _______________________________________________ ::::> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. ::::> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html ::::> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ::::> ::::_______________________________________________ ::::Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. ::::Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html ::::Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ :::: _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- Bigger burger roll needed n3td3v (Oct 01)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Virus Friendly (Oct 03)
- Re[2]: Bigger burger roll needed phased (Oct 03)
- RE: Bigger burger roll needed Randall M (Oct 03)
- Re[2]: Bigger burger roll needed phased (Oct 03)
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- RE: Bigger burger roll needed J. Oquendo (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Steve Friedl (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Bruce Ediger (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Micheal Espinola Jr (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Micheal Espinola Jr (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed security curmudgeon (Oct 04)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Micheal Espinola Jr (Oct 04)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed security curmudgeon (Oct 04)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 04)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 03)
- Re: Bigger burger roll needed Virus Friendly (Oct 03)