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Re: Cisco IOS Shellcode Presentation
From: Steve Friedl <steve () unixwiz net>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:22:03 -0700
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 05:16:15PM -0400, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
Coercion is simply influence. You can be coerced into a choice, but its still your choice - regardless if people like it or not.
This obliterates any distinction between "coercion" and "persuasion", so why bother to have separate words? When you claim that "I have a gun to your head" is the same as "pretty please with sugar on top", you mark yourself as having a stunning poverty of perspective. Steve --- Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | +1 714 544-6561 www.unixwiz.net | Tustin, Calif. USA | Microsoft MVP | steve () unixwiz net _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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