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Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment
From: "Micah McNelly" <micah () style net>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:26:41 -0800
Without web defacing teenagers this industry wouldn't have gained the momentum it has. Yin/Yang. Without your so called cybercriminals your life would be meaningless. /m Len rose is a muppet. Stop moderating my mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "n3td3v" <xploitable () gmail com> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: FW: [Full-disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:19 -0700 (MST), Bruce Ediger <eballen1 () qwest net> wrote:Unfortunately, the US Government operates under the auspices of a small document called "The Constitution", and a little concept called "Common
Law".
Now, I know that you trendy kids call things like that "quaint" (I
believe
that's what our new Attorney general calls things like the Geneva
Convention.
See
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/13/wguan13.xml& sSheet=/news/2004/06/13/ixworld.html)
but fortunately for the rest of us, "presumption of innocence" remains the standard of the land. If you small-minded totalitarians don't like that sacred principle, get the hell out of the US. We don't need your kind. Move to some Banana Republic where they change the rules all the time in the face of 1000 years of tradition and philosophy and the Blood of Patriots who died to protect these rights. "Zero tollerence". What will these doofuses think of next? I bet they start up a cult of personality around the nation's leader, including a new salute borrowed from the Romans.I don't live in the U.S thankfully, I live in a sane country called the
U.K
Would you agree with closing down a site that was letting child abusers to post links to illegal child porn photographs? Would the site owner be able to say, we aren't involved with any of these links, we just provide the site for the criminals to do it, so other child abusers can get links easy to child porn photos. But no, when we move onto online malicious hacker crimes, its ok for sites, such as zone-h, which allows malicious hackers to post links for other hackers to get a kick over, just like a child abuser would by visiting a child porn photo. Imagine a child abuse site which also kept a score board of the biggest amount of child porn photo posters. Yet again we move onto malicious hacker online crimes, it seems to be different for zone-h to keep scores of the biggest malicious hacker defacement posters. Why one rule for one online crime promotion site and not the same rule for another online crime promotion site? I guess you would allow a child porn promotion site, like you think its ok for zone-h to be online promoting online malicious hacking and not closed down. Thanks,n3td3v http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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