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RE: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment
From: " Jim Tuttle" <jim.tuttle () wesd org>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:32:33 -0800
It's agendas like that, that segregate the information and keep it locked up in secret files that only the "3l33t" you speak of have access too. A substantial technological selling point for the current governmental administration recently placed in office. I am not disputing your professional accreditation or your more-than-real passion for information disclosure. You have your reasons, and everyone should respect that. I am just merely asking you to look at where you posted your reply. On FD. In my last 3 years of network administration and network security, I have no need to go to any "site" so you say. I just go to my inbox and download my daily FD, and Bugtraq emails. It's all there, in plain text format. Maybe, if your agenda is a prominent as your reply made it sound, you should consider shutting down FD and the rest of the lists. In the meantime, hax0rs, phr34k3rs, FXPers carry on. I need your headaches, haxs, Bots and issues. Otherwise, who knows how I'll pay my bills. And I do get bored extremely easy. And if you all feel so inclined, post your tactics and methods to a website, so I can register an account with a bogus email and educate myself. No hard feelings n3td3v, this isn't a flame. Jim Tuttle Tuttle Information Systems. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of n3td3v Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:06 AM To: Todd Towles; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: FW: [Full-disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:53:44 +0000, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:41:20 -0600, Todd Towles <toddtowles () brookshires com> wrote:Well, it is given that posting to FD does give a site exposure (good and bad). But I wouldn't say that FD was the cause of it..it was the illegal activity that was the cause of it. We all know SCC does some underground stuff and they post here each time they move. So...I wouldn't blame the FD list for anything.I wouldn't use the word blame? I think its a good thing if Full-Disclosure is helping to catch online criminals. I don't know if you like malicious hackers and other criminals, but yeah.... I dislike them. I would do anything in my power to stop online crime, from scriptkiddie stuff, to sex stuff,spam,scams, fraud, terrorism and back again. I have no space for anyone thinking they are elite and all the other hacker scene crap. Its time to clamp down on the BS thats on the net. If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews and hacker groups, fk them all. The net needs zero tollerence with online crime. Govs should have the authority to close anything done because they feel like it, without needing to prove shit. I would even close IRC channels. Hackphreak on undernet looks harmless, but fk that. Close it anyway, its time to get a tighter grip on things. Thanks,n3td3v
Same for zone-h.org, close the crap down.. f**k anything that looks remotely hax0rish. zero-tollerence!! Thanks,n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Todd Towles (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment devis (Nov 21)
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- RE: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Todd Towles (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- RE: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Jim Tuttle (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Bruce Ediger (Nov 17)
- RE: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment raza (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment I.R. van Dongen (Nov 21)
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- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Micah McNelly (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Barrie Dempster (Nov 18)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment n3td3v (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Luke Norman (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment Travis Good (Nov 17)
- Re: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment devis (Nov 21)