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Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors...
From: Kenneth Ng <kenneth.d.ng () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:33:38 -0500
If you want an analogy, note that the US government says that smoking is bad for you. Yet, they won't ban smoking. Why? All the revenue they get from taxing cigerettes. On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:50:11 -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 19:29:26 PST, bipin gautam said:A simple yet effective solution would be, for AV vendors to (say) add the vulnerable system dll's, execudables etc... in a threat list (Refering to Microsoft's KB or something similar) And after completing the virus scan, suggest the users to download proper patches accordingly to threat level and directing the end users towards proper link to do so?Simple, effective, and Won't Happen In Our Lifetime. Remember - we're talking about a multi-billion dollar market segment devoted to fixing shortcomings in another company's software. And said segment doesn't want to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs. Repeat after me: Most A/V vendors don't actually give a squat about your security. They are there to sell you products and improve their bottom line, not yours. They don't care about your bottom line as long as your bottom line can still pay their invoices. The A/V vendors have known for several years now exactly how not to send "a virus was cleaned from your email by ShinyAV" spam, but they keep doing it anyhow, just to get brainshare for ShinyAV. What business case is there for them to give you a pointer to vendor patches that will close some of the holes that let the malware in? (Also, keep in mind that if they don't point you at IE fixes, then when you get 0wned by an IE hole, they can just say "Hey, that's not a virus, that's an IE hole, Not Our Problem"...)
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- A suggestion to all AV vendors... bipin gautam (Dec 06)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Ron (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Kenneth Ng (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Ron (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Florian Weimer (Dec 12)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Ron (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... colinm () clientsecure net (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Mary Landesman (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Kenneth Ng (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Todd Towles (Dec 07)
- Re: A suggestion to all AV vendors... Stephen Menard (Dec 10)
- RE: A suggestion to all AV vendors... bipin gautam (Dec 10)