Full Disclosure mailing list archives
Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again )
From: Peter van den Heuvel <peter () bank-connect com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:49:39 +0200
It would make more sense to research a bit more into why people do this, how they could be convinced to be more social, and most particularly, how the process of "decent" disclosure could be facilitated.
Research? Please!?!?!?! Subjects like this have been researched to death. It doesn't matter *why* people do it. The fact is that they *do* and they always will. No amount of research, no laws, no cajoling, no berating, no belittling is ever going to change human behavior. Why do you think the Serbs and Bosnians have been fighting each other since the 14th century? Because it makes sense? Because it's the right thing to do? Because it's responsible?
No. The point is far simpler. If you encounter something you consider a problem, you take measures. One should research the effectiveness of those measures and possiblities to improve them together with the problem itself; one is meaningless without the other. It is my feeling that there is quite some space for improvement in the way "the industry" is trying to deal with the problem.
One quick word on your Bosnian example. On this globe there are areas of more and of less stability. These differences have a reason beyond simply the nature of the people that live there. Understanding is essential to the effectiveness of all parties trying to cope with those problem area's. Unfortunately this insight seems to be hampered by most helpers actually being part of the problem. What a nice example.
Then of course my initial Email did not declare uncontrolled immediate disclosure as the most elegant of things imaginable; nor did it state it was the most horrid thing I could think of. But you had no doubt intercepted that.
Peter _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ), (continued)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Andrew Griffiths (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Georgi Guninski (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Schmehl, Paul L (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) KF (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) ATD (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) madsaxon (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Richard M. Smith (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Mike Fratto (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Cesar (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Brett Hutley (Jul 02)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) KF (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Peter van den Heuvel (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) mattmurphy () kc rr com (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Ron DuFresne (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) KF (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Ron DuFresne (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) dhtml (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Kristian Hermansen (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) KF (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Schmehl, Paul L (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Shawn McMahon (Jul 02)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Kristian Hermansen (Jul 06)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) gandalf94305 (Jul 06)