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RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again )
From: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:43:42 -0500
-----Original Message----- From: Peter van den Heuvel [mailto:peter () bank-connect com] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:04 AM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) I find all these posts on irresponsible behaviour a bit surprising. Driving through a red light is irresponsible, blowing oneanothers heads out with firearms is irresponsible (and USA citizens seem to be cunningly good at that), and still it happens. The problem is not going away, so face it and learn to live with it best you can. So, lets make it illegal! Yeah, like that ever solved a problem. It would make more sense to research a bit more into why people do this, how they could be convinced to be more social, and most particularly, how the process of "decent" disclosure could be facilitated.
Research? Please!?!?!?! Subjects like this have been researched to death. It doesn't matter *why* people do it. The fact is that they *do* and they always will. No amount of research, no laws, no cajoling, no berating, no belittling is ever going to change human behavior. Why do you think the Serbs and Bosnians have been fighting each other since the 14th century? Because it makes sense? Because it's the right thing to do? Because it's responsible? No matter what system you try to implement, *somebody* will try to circumvent it. That's just human nature. The solution to this problem lies in the hands of the vendors, *not* in the hands of the researchers. Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Peter van den Heuvel (Jul 01)
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- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Schmehl, Paul L (Jul 01)
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- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) madsaxon (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Richard M. Smith (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Mike Fratto (Jul 01)
- RE: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Cesar (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Brett Hutley (Jul 02)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) KF (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Peter van den Heuvel (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) mattmurphy () kc rr com (Jul 01)
- Re: Microsoft Cries Wolf ( again ) Ron DuFresne (Jul 01)